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What are the best PUBG weapons? It is no good hiding behind trees and making it to the final few players in a round of PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds only to realise you are left to dispatch the last few survivors with a pea shooter. Amassing a versatile arsenal of the best PUBG weapons is your best shot at fending off the other 99 players who are all vying for a chicken dinner.

However, there are heaps of PUBG weapons to choose from, and as you can only carry two primary weapons, a pistol, a melee weapon, and a grenade, picking what to keep and what to discard is half the battle. There’s also a lot more to consider when reviewing PUBG’s weapons than how long they take to drop an enemy or how accurate they are. Some rifles might lack some punch, but they more than make up for it in other, less obvious areas like bullet speed, which will mean less bullet drop and travel time. Likewise, some guns might not seem all that good at first, but become the best in their class with the right attachments.

Wellcome to the PUBG Mobile Weapons Guide, where you can check the stats of the 35 weapons in the game: damage, dps, ammo type. Based this on the pubg.me damage values released this week and a previous spreadsheet I'd seen. Chart shows per shot damage to a player depending on the body part and armor level, as well as color coded for number of shots to kill.

In an effort to make those decisions easier for you, we have assembled this PUBG weapons guide packed with details and tips on every gun in the game. Expect information on where you’ll find a specific firearm, what types of attachments it can carry, the ammo it uses, and the types of engagements it excels at. We’re nothing if not thorough.

We have broken our PUBG weapons guide down into categories to make it easier for you to find the guns you are looking for:

PUBG Sanhok weapons

QBZ95
Ammo: 5.56

Struggling to find the SCAR-L on Sanhok? In the PUBG new map the SCAR-L has been replaced by the Chinese QBZ95, a modern bullpup assault rifle. This world spawn rifle has a slightly buffed spawn rate so it should be easy to find. Like the SCAR-L, the QBZ95 chambers a 5.56mm round that deals 43 damage per hit and carries 30 rounds in a standard magazine, which can be upped to 40 with the extended magazine attachment.

The QBZ is remarkably similar to the SCAR-L in that both deal the same amount of damage and can carry a wide variety of attachments, however they do differ in two ways: the QBZ95 takes much longer reload, but will down quicker thanks to its slightly higher rate of fire.

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QBU
Ammo: 5.56

This DMR might lack damage owing to the 5.56 rounds it chambers, but it makes for it with exceptional muzzle velocity, a high rate of fire, and a bipod that nearly eliminates recoil when deployed. Sure, you’ll need to put a few rounds into a target before they drop, but the minimal travel time makes landing hits much easier, especially over long distances.

The QBU can take muzzle, sight, and magazine attachments, making it reasonably modifiable for a DMR. Like the Mini 14, the QBU can stand in for an assault rifle if the RNG has been particularly cruel to you, but where it really excels is between medium and long-range firefights. 5.56 rounds are also very common across Sanhok, ensuring you’ll always have a good supply of ammo.

PUBG Miramar weapons

Win94
Ammo: .45

It is hard to place this antique rifle into any PUBG weapons category: it cannot take any attachments, it deals reasonable damage, and it is lever-action. Since no scope will fit this rifle, its practical range is relatively short. However, the Win94 does boast high bullet velocity and enough damage to put an enemy down in a few shots. Unfortunately, the lever-action means this rifle takes as long as the 98 Kurz to fire consecutive shots, so a missed shot can be a death sentence with this rifle. So, when should you use the Win94? The Win94 excels at mid-range where you can take time to place each devastating shot, but only if you cannot find a better DMR or sniper rifle. The Win94 is exclusive to the new Miramar map.

Sawed-off
Ammo: 12 Guage

This stubby double-barrel shotgun the desert-themed PUBG new map, Miramar. Its range is terrible, but nothing compares when rounding a corner. Of course the main reason you will want to get hold of this boomstick is because it occupies a sidearm slot, which means you do not have to fill one of your primary slots with a shotgun.

R45
Ammo: .45

This Miramar exclusive revolver is the six-shooter we all wanted the R1895 to be. For starters, the R45 comes with a speed loader as standard, which means reload times are slashed. It might not pack quite as much of a punch, but the iron sights make it a surprisingly good sidearm, particularly for mid-range engagements.

PUBG assault rifles

Mk47 Mutant
Ammo: 7.62

There aren’t many burst-fire assault rifles among the myriad PUBG guns, which is why PUBG. Corp added the Mk47 Mutant, a single or burst-fire assault rifle with superb accuracy.

The Mutant deals the same per bullet damage as the AKM, but with the accuracy of it’s two-round burst fire mode, it can be lethal at mid-range. The Mutant also boasts both upper and lower rails so you can outfit it with a bevy of attachments that extend its effective reach. Just don’t rely on in it close-quarters as most fully automatic weapons will outstrip it in terms of damage per second.

Beryl M762
Ammo: 7.62

This modern Polish assault rifle offers stopping power that’s just shy of the AKM, but on a more stable and versatile platform. Unlike the AKM, the M762 can take grip attachments, allowing you to alleviate some of the recoil if you have the loot.

While it’s stopping power doesn’t quite match that of the AKM, its rate of fire is much higher, closer to that of the formidable Groza, so the M762 is actually much more deadly if you connect a few shots.

AKM
Ammo: 7.62

As you would guess from the 7.62 bullets, the AKM packs a punch for a fully-automatic assault rifle. Stick to semi-automatic fire for medium- and long-range engagements as the recoil will prove too difficult to manage. The AKM can only accept a muzzle, magazine, and sight attachment. Given its ability to kill armoured targets with five shots we recommend a sight as it can make the AKM devastating in the right hands.

AUG A3
Ammo: 5.56

Currently, the AUG A3 can only be found in airdrop crates, so getting your hands on one is pretty difficult. Decent burst recoil makes this assault rifle highly effective up to medium range. It is also one of the more versatile PUBG weapons when it comes to attachments and can be fitted with most sights, a variety of muzzle attachments, extended and quickdraw magazines, and grips.

Groza
Ammo: 7.62

Another assault rifle that can only be found in airdrop crates, the Groza is a real gem and nearly unrivalled in terms of its damage per second (DPS) rating. As it chambers the same 7.62 cartridge as the AKM every shot deals a lot of impact, but where the Groza excels is in its rate of fire: you can unload 750 rounds per minute with the Groza compared to the AKM’s 600 rounds per minute. Muzzle, mag, and sight attachments are available for the Groza – as it has a lot of recoil, it is advisable to gear this PUBG weapon as if it is a submachine gun.

M16A4
Ammo: 5.56

Solid damage, low recoil, high bullet velocity (which means low bullet drop), and plenty of scope when it comes to which attachments you can plug onto this notorious rifle: the M16A4 is a beast. However, a lot of players ignore it due to its lack of a full-automatic fire mode. To make up for that, you can switch this PUBG weapon to burst fire for a DPS rating close to that of the Groza – just bear in mind the delay between bursts, which makes the M16A4 tough to use up close.

M416
Ammo: 5.56

Take your pick of attachments for the M416: muzzle, magazine, stock, lower, and upper rail attachments can all be fitted. Other than that, the M416 does not have many qualities to brag about. It can fire faster than the SCAR-L and has some of the best iron sights in the game, but on the down side it has abysmal impact, meaning your enemy’s aim is barely compromised when they receive damage from this PUBG weapon.

SCAR-L
Ammo: 5.56

It might have the lowest DPS rating of any assault rifle in PUBG, but the SCAR-L makes up for it with its fully-automatic recoil pattern, which is comparable to the amount of kick produced by the M16A4 when firing in single-shot mode. While, theoretically, an enemy with a Groza should win in a duel, in practice you will have a much easier time landing all of your shots and may come out on top because of it. You can also outfit the SCAR-L with most AR attachments, though it is worth noting that the iron sights are very limiting, so a sight or scope should take precedent when looting buildings.

PUBG DMRs

Mini 14
Ammo: 5.56

On paper it is tough to find much worth celebrating for this designated marksman rifle. Its damage is not particularly high, it has a fair amount of kick, and a very slow rate of fire. However, the Mini 14 has exceptional bullet velocity, better even than that of the AWM. That means good travel time and low bullet drop, making long-range engagements a breeze. The Mini 14 is technically classified as a sniper rifle and so can be fitted with a variety of scopes, as well as some magazine and muzzle add-ons.

SKS
Ammo: 7.62

Want to hit harder than an assault rifle without compromising your rate of fire? The SKS is the ideal middle ground between the two popular primary PUBG weapon categories. You can also find the SKS around the map, making it a weapon worth getting good with. Its other bonus is that it can accept attachments to all five slots, so if you take the time to improve, this rifle it is easily one of the best long-range guns in the game.

PUBG sniper rifles

AWM
Ammo: .300

Arguably the best sniper rifle in the game, there is a good reason for the AWM being a rare drop from airdrop crates: it is the only non-shotgun with a power rating of 100. That translates to a one-hit kill on unarmoured enemies, and two shots if they are wearing armour; headshots against any level of helmet are a guaranteed kill. In addition, the AWM also has next to no bullet drop, so you should have no problem landing those lethal .300 magnum shots.

Karabiner 98 Kurz
Ammo: 7.62

If you are looking for a step up from the SKS in terms of range and stopping power then the Karabiner 98 Kurz is an excellent sniper rifle. Its vintage nature means a cripplingly slow fire rate, but it more than makes up for this with its accuracy at long range and two-hit kill potential for all levels of armour. In terms of attachments, the 98 Kurz can accept all scopes, basic muzzle attachments, the sniper rifle cheek pad, and bullet loops to increase your reload speed. You can find this sniper rifle across the map and in airdrop crates, making it the most popular sniper rifle in PUBG.

VSS Vintorez
Ammo: 9mm

A scarce weapon when it comes to spawn rates, the VSS Vintorez matches its rarity with some exotic PUBG weapon characteristics. For starters, if you find this fully-automatic, stubby sharpshooter, you will not then have to search for a scope and suppressor: it comes with both permanently attached. It also fires 9mm bullets, which are sub-sonic. Couple that with the suppressor and enemies stand no chance of detecting where your shots are coming from. You pay for those stealthy perks with incredibly low range, damage, and velocity for a sniper rifle. Due to that, you are best off using this sniper as an assault rifle or submachine gun. You can add a cheek pad and standard magazine attachments to the VSS.

M24
Ammo: 7.62

Better than the Karabiner 98 Kurz, but not as good as the AWM – the M24 is a solid, bolt-action sniper rifle. Unlike the 98 Kurz, you can only get the M24 in airdrop crates.

Mk14 EBR
Ammo: 7.62

Another sniper rifle that can only be collected from airdrop crates, the Mk14 EBR is the beefier cousin of the SKS – decent sniping capacity with a fire rate that makes it competitive at medium range, too. The Mk14 EBR has a party trick, though, which is that you can switch it to fully automatic in a pinch. You can also fit sights, stocks, muzzles, and mags to the EBR to suit your battle royale needs. Lastly, this punchy sniper comes with a bipod underrail attachment that makes finishing off targets at long range simple.

PUBG light machine guns

M249
Ammo: 5.56

The AWM might get the plaudits for being the most powerful long-range weapon in the game, but when it comes to upping your chances of getting a chicken dinner, the M249 LMG is the gun to hunt down. You can only find it in airdrop crates but this is a gun worth exposing yourself to enemy fire for. Being able to fire 100 bullets in less than ten seconds is useful for everything from suppressing enemies to clearing out buildings. To hammer the point further, you can cause 443 points of damage per second. On top of that, the M249 also has better bullet velocity than all other assault rifles, making it easy to land hits at long range. You can only attach different sights and scopes to the M249, though, so if you cannot handle its stats then the only thing that can help you is practice.

DP-28
Ammo: 7.62

Like the M249, the DP-28 can only have sights and scopes as attachments. Unlike the M24, however, you can find this Russian LMG as a world drop, making it much safer to acquire. It packs a punch with every 7.62 bullet, but you can manage the substantial recoil by deploying the integrated bipod. Its slow rate of fire and low bullet velocity make its recoil very manageable at short and medium ranges.

PUBG submachine guns

Micro Uzi
Ammo: 9mm

This PUBG weapon is the epitome of spray and pray. Due to its poor damage you will only want to use the Micro Uzi early into a match, where its high rate of fire should shred unarmoured enemies looting as they search through buildings for loot. It is nigh-on impossible to control while aiming down sights, so stick to hip fire. The Micro Uzi can be fitted with a stock, muzzle add-ons, and various magazine tweaks.

Tommy Gun
Ammo: .45

Ah, the Chicago Typewriter – if you want to feel like a mobster then nothing beats the Tommy Gun. Hard-hitting .45 rounds make this one of the most powerful submachine guns in Battlegrounds, but an inability to attach sights and some unpredictable recoil mean this weapon is only useful in expert hands. Extended mags are a must as they double the Tommy Gun’s magazine capacity without adding any time to the reload speed.

Vector
Ammo: .45

You only get 13 rounds per magazine for this close-quarters killer, so make extended magazine your priority when looting. Fortunately, the Vector boasts moderate damage, high rate of fire, and very low recoil, so landing those hits does not take an expert marksman. That said, exercise caution when pulling the trigger as it takes just over a second to empty a standard magazine. The Vector also benefits from being able to receive a grip, various magazine types, muzzles, sights and scopes, and a stock. This is one of the best PUBG weapons for close encounters.

UMP9
Ammo: 9mm

One of the most common PUBG weapons, the UMP9 will serve you well between close and medium range, but as it serves as a bridge between SMGs and assault rifles it does not excel in any particular situation. Fairly manageable recoil with a grip and compensator attachment equipped, high damage, and common 9mm rounds make this a stalwart of the submachine guns category.

PUBG shotguns

S12K
Ammo: 12 Gauge

A semi-automatic shotgun sounds like the perfect gun for urban clashes, but the S12K serves a niche purpose: squad wipes. Very poor range means you can only make the most of its semi-automatic fire mode when you are in the room with your target. At this range, however, its magazine capacity, damage, and rate of fire make it devastating, even more so if you can find an extended magazine for it – if you are looting apartment buildings then the S12K is a good ally. Unlike other shotguns, the S12K can accept a number of sights and muzzle attachments.

S1897
Ammo: 12 Gauge

When it comes to shotguns, most people think of unrivalled stopping power in close quarters – to that end, the S1897 (or Trench Gun) delivers, and then some. One-shot kills against unarmoured enemies up close make this a great secondary weapon, particularly when looting buildings.

S686
Ammo: 12 Gauge

This double-barrel shotgun is for players who never miss. The ability to fire two rounds almost simultaneously make this by far the deadliest weapon in the game when it comes to combat in tight areas. Of course, you will have to do a lot of reloading with this shotgun, and while its reload speed is decent, it can make it an awkward companion in squad servers.

PUBG bows

Crossbow
Ammo: Bolt

Agonisingly slow reload times, low velocity, and low range make the Crossbow a daunting weapon to use. But it can occasionally be worth the risk thanks to its ability to instantly kill with a headshot against all helmet types, as well as with torso shots to unarmoured enemies. The only attachment worth acquiring for the Crossbow is the quiver, which reduces the reload time.

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PUBG pistols

P1911
Ammo: .45

The P1911 bridges the gap between most modern handguns and revolvers, providing ample stopping power at the cost of a low magazine capacity and mediocre rate of fire. If you cannot find any decent PUBG weapons early into a round then this will serve you surprisingly well.

P92
Ammo: 9mm

The P92 has a slightly lower rate of fire when compared to the P18C but a little extra stopping power to make up for it. Do not waste time deciding between the two.

P18C
Ammo: 9mm

Low damage might hinder the P18C, but as it boasts a high magazine capacity and the category’s highest rate of fire, you will find the P18C is good at suppressing and finishing off enemies.

R1895
Ammo: 7.62

If you can land every shot then the revolver might save your life, if not then the low rate of fire, painfully slow reload times, and heavy kick of this sidearm can be insufferable. Swap out to fists and go H.A.M. – you will have a lot more fun at the very least.

Skorpion
Ammo: 9mm

With an effective fire range of 50 metres, the option of fully automatic fire, and heaps of attachment slots ensuring you can improve its stats, the Skorpion is an excellent pistol to carry at all stages of the game. Use it for close-quarters battles at the very start of a match when enemies haven’t had a chance to grab armour and you’ll find it a handy, pocket-sized SMG.

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PUBG grenades

Frag Grenade

Got an enemy pinned down? Lob a ‘nade their way and flush them out of their hiding spot. These throwables are terrifyingly lethal and great during the final phase of a match where forcing your opponents out of position is so crucial to winning.

Molotov Cocktail

The Molotov Cocktail is an odd throwable and is rarely more useful than a Frag Grenade. It does deal burning damage to enemies over a short duration, but it is more useful for area denial: blocking access to staircases, denying flanking routes, and stopping enemies from hopping into vehicles. One neat quirk of the Molotov Cocktail is that it can instantly destroy doors, which could be helpful for rushing campers.

Smoke Grenade

The Smoke Grenade is ideal when you are pinned down behind cover. Pop this throwable to cover your movement between cover or escape the situation entirely. Alternatively, you can use the Smoke Grenade as a decoy.

Stun Grenade

On paper, the Stun Grenade should be an essential tool for clearing rooms, but the disorienting effect triggers inconsistently, making it hard to recommend.

PUBG melee weapons

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If you are going to waste time deciding between melee weapons, then this is the best option available to you. Why? The Pan boasts an unusual trait: the cast iron skillet is bulletproof and so protects your posterior from damage when it is not equipped. That is right: this melee weapon can literally save your arse. It also deals more damage than the other melee weapons, but we prefer it as extra armour.

Crowbar

Helpful for Gordon Freeman cosplays but not much else. The Crowbar, like all melee weapons, is a last resort PUBG weapon.

Machete

It might look deadlier than a crowbar but the machete will deal exactly the same damage. Effective against unarmoured foes who do not know you are behind them.

Sickle

The Sickle is mainly in PUBG as an a neat reference to the movie that inspired the game, Battle Royale.

PUBG weapon damage stats become increasingly important as you begin to think more competitively about how you play the game.

Different weapon stats are important at different times, too; DPS isn't very important for sniper rifles, for example, but it's one of the most important stats for SMGs.

Here on this page we'll outline all the essential stats and numbers for each of PUBG's weapons, including the latest addition, the Bizon, plus our own choice of the best weapons in PUBG, with our own reasoning, further down the page.

On this page:

PUBG weapon damage stats and charts, including the new MP5K

Before diving into the tables, there are a few things to bear in mind:

• First, these stats are sourced from datamines of the main game - our sources include the datamined stats found here, as well as this spreadsheet from PUBG redditor dak4ttack, and this page from fellow redditor bizfarts.
• The tables below are ordered by Shots to Kill, with the fewest shots to kill ranked highest. That doesn't mean that's always the best way to evaluate the weapons though. For a sniper rifle it's essential, as you're trying to kill players with as few shots as possible. For others like ARs and SMGs, the Time to Kill is much more important, with the lower the time the better.
• Time to Kill is when the weapon is firing at the chest of an opponent who is wearing Level 2 Chest Armour, which is the most likely standard for when you're playing decent-level games from the mid-game onwards. Likewise Shots to Kill for Chest and Head are both for Level 2 Chest Armour and Level 2 Helmets.
• Times are in seconds.
• Weapons marked with an asterisk * are only available in air drop crates, so don't plan to play around these being available in every game!
• This page is up to date as of the Update #29 on PC.

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Assault Rifles and LMG damage stats:

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Pistols and Sidearm damage stats:

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PUBG update #29 is live: here's our guide to the latest PUBG patch notes for update 29 to get you up to speed. Meanwhile, we've dedicated pages on the Sanhok map, Erangel map and Miramar map and Vikendi map, too. If you're after some broader advice, our list of PUBG tips and tricks, PUBG weapon damage stats and the best weapons and best PUBG loot locations can help.

The best PUBG weapons - and why

Now you have all the essential info, it's time to do a little thinking about how these play out in-game, because cold, hard stats aren't everything. Here are our thoughts on the best weapons in each category:

• Sniper Rifles - The air drop-exclusive AWM is the only rifle in the game powerful enough to kill an unarmoured player with a single shot to the chest, but it's taken a hefty nerf in recent times. The Kar98k is the next best thing that you can get from regular play. It's the only non-crate rifle that can one-hit-kill a player in a Level 2 Helmet, is quite readily available, and requires minimal attachments. Our next favourite is the SLR, which now trumps the SKS, thanks to the faster time-to-kill on top of the sustained semi-auto fire and great potential when it's maxed out with attachments.
• Assault Rifles - Despite being bottom of the pile for shots-to-kill, the rapid fire rate of the M249 gives it the shortest time to kill of any LMG or assault rifle. The Groza also absolutely shreds - you've probably seen the highlight videos of people using it to wipe out entire squads - but both of these are crate-only. The best regular gun is still the M416 in our opinion, thanks to its potential for kitting out with attachments, flexibility of fire rate and the ability to attach an 8x scope, although the early-days impression of the Beryl M762 is that it's an excellent option if you can control its hefty kickback, thanks to high base damage and high rate of fire. Alternatively the QBZ is alarmingly steady when firing in automatic mode, making it a great option too. The M16A4 is also viable, and actually has a faster time to kill than any bar the M249 if you can master rapid-tapping for burst fire. The SCAR-L is actually the quietest and has similar time-to-kill, making it great with a silencer in closer range combat.
• SMGs - Contrary to some opinions, we prefer the UZI to all other SMGs. That's because it has by far the smallest bullet spread (roughly half that of its nearest rival), which is essential for SMGs as they rely on full-auto use, unlike ARs and Snipers. It's common, requires minimal attachments to be effective, and the sheer panic inspired by its rate of fire can be enough to put off inexperienced foes. Next up is the Vector, but this is only viable when you have an Extended Mag, as its base capacity of 13 rounds is just too low on its own, although it became more viable with Update #12 on PC, reducing the time- and shots-to-kill noticably.

• Shotguns - The S12k comes out on top thanks to the added utility of automatic shotgun fire. The 'farmer' shotgun S686 actually has a slightly higher max rate of fire for its two rounds - but of course there are only two rounds you can fire at a time. The pump-action S1897 is a last resort.
• Pistols and Sidearms - The only sidearms worth carrying, outside of emergencies where you can't find anything else, are the Sawed-Off Shotgun, P18C, Skorpion and P1911. The Sawed-Off is probably the best, as sidearms are really for emergencies only, and with that you only need to carry a few rounds for it to be handy. The P18C is a bit of a powerhouse with full attachments though, acting like a spare SMG if you're stuck for close-range options - and note that pistols now have practically zero recoil as of Update #12. It's like playing classic DOOM, and makes them much easier (and more fun!) to use.
• Melee and Other - If you're out for a laugh, the Crossbow is great fun, especially if you get good with it and can find a Quiver. Back in the days of fog maps it was also actually almost pretty good, delivering completely silent kills from nowhere. Really though, outside of emergencies, the only thing you should be using here is the Pan, which should always be picked up on sight and acts as some lovely 'level 4' armour for your butt. It's saved us more than a few times and is also surprisingly good for damage as a last resort.
• Other things to consider - Finally, it's worth noting above all that any weapon is viable if you're good enough at using it, and personal preferences always come into play. We like the UZI because of its condensed spread, for instance, and will almost always use it - but you might prefer shotguns, or maybe the M416 or AKM for close-range work because you can control them more effectively. Things change quite frequently with PUBG, too, so keep checking back after major patches and we'll update this page to note them. Who knows, maybe the VSS might have a resurgence?